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Kas sooviksite kaasa sõita?
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ehhhh... kerega kelgutamine mööda raami roolisammas näos kinni... ei aitähhh...;)
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Wow! Uksed ei kukkunudki lahti! :shock:
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Uazist kirjutas:ehhhh... kerega kelgutamine mööda raami roolisammas näos kinni... ei aitähhh...;)
Peale seda avariid tekib küsimus "Millises näos?"
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tõepoolest... ja need uksed ei tule ilmselt enam kunagi lahti...
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Dziises,terve kere on raamipealt maha jooxnud :eek
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aga positiivne on näha seda et raam on olnud piisavalt tugev... :twisted:
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Huvitav kas see auto idanaabrite mõistes läbis antud testi või kukkus läbi :?:
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Uazil kulub ikka ära küll kerele ette mingid lisakinnitused mis takistaksid kere kelgutamist, raami poolest Uaz ja Gaz üldiselt väga tugevad ja eks sellise masinaga matsu panemine päris oleneb vastasest, olen näinud mis juhtus ühe Audi 100-ga peale Uaziga otse kokku põrkamist, Audist suurt järgi ei jäänud aga Uaz sõitis omal jõul veel pärast ära kuigi Uazi juht sai parajalt põrutada ja taga olnud poiss sai muhu otsa ette.
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Huvitav kas see auto idanaabrite mõistes läbis antud testi või kukkus läbi
arvan et läbis... salong on ju terve ;)
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Landy kirjutas:Kas sooviksite kaasa sõita?
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:D ärge kihutage sõbrad, ja teiega ei juhtu sellist jama kunagi!
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Värsked testid värske UAZ'ikuga!
УАЗ-3160 ĢСимбирģ
http://www.suvonline.narod.ru/suvonline ... sh3160.htm

Siin ka automaattõle RUS->ENG:

It visel on the pitchforks of forklift truck - bulky, plain, badly designed and negligently assembled. But in addition even and broken. Its driver and passenger suffered injury of head and neck, which, most likely, they were incompatible with the life. Yes even it itself already by one foot in the grave - it temporarily removed from the production because of a drop in the demand. Even in the lift loader, on pitchforks of which it visel, was name its own - some joker derived aboard the name of clipper To katti Sark. But clumsy UAZ-EY'0 no one called the plain name Of simbir appropriated to him - it left from the life under poligonovskim number 658 and gluing EuroNccAP aboard... Kraw- test - logical completion of path in life of that purchased by us in summer UAZa-ey'0. First it pouchastvoval in the test- path together with To shevrole by field, was harmoniously scolded by practically all participants in the "fitting to itself"... After output To avtorevyu with the "fitting" Of uAZa the demand for model 3160, even without that of similar to a thready pulse of that dying, catastrophically fell - orders from the dealers were reduced five. And the general director of Victor klochay's UAZa was ordered to temporarily stop assembling model 3160. Really we, journalists To avtorevyu, "did remove from the production" entire automobile? To be proud of this - or to experience guilt complex? Indeed did not support domestic producer. Vice versa - they were attacked, they pecked... We do not suffer megalomania and do not overestimate our influence on the market. Yes, Avtorevyu they read, they listen to us. But UAZ-EY'0 even without that breathed to the incense. Six years after the beginning of release with the design capacity into 50000 machines in Ul'yanovsk actually they gathered per year less than thousand UAZov-ey'0. And our fault, as you understand, in this there is none. Market did not want Simbira on the price in eight thousand arbitrary units. But if one is it rose to ten thousand... All this we explain so that it would be clearly - up to the moment of our kraw- test the life Of simbira of visela on the hairspring. And impact employing procedure EuroNccAP could become the last drop, which overfilled cup. But can be, UAZ-EY'0 at least safe with the frontal emergencies? This could supplement the scant list of the merits Of uAZa... In reality, with the collision with the passenger automobile two-ton, high and frame Simbir a priori has an advantage. You do visualize the impact Of uAZa and, let us suppose Oka? Yes it simply will press it under itself! But kraw- test with the barrier being deformed imitates collision with the automobile of analogous mass - in the case with UAZom this the sufficiently rare case. For example, UAZ - and Gazel'. Or UAZ - and Mercedes S- class... The question here arises: and is correct whether this testing? Indeed high Simbir beats into the upper part of the barrier, "being missed" past the additional strip of aluminum hundreds, car imitating bumper. Yes even generally, these aluminum honeycombs To uAZu - that to elephant pellet. But formally UAZ-EY'0 is considered as the passenger automobile. And in principle, to it is extended the certification rule № of 94 YEEK OF UNITED NATIONS (the same impact, but at the lower speed - 56 km/h). If model 3160 was placed on the production now, and not six years ago, at the right time of the action of ancient rule № 12 (frontal impact into the wall without the mannequins at the speed of 50 km/h), then it would be obligated to pass certification kraw- test with the barrier! So that the kraw- test Of uAZa employing procedure EuroNccAP - the matter is correct. Yes, this rigid testing - actually, the impact about the low steel obstacle at the speed of 64 km/h, on top of that and with the 40- percent overlap. But this is a good test for the structure of body. And, as shows the experience of program EuroNccAP, the automobile of this class can withstand a similar impact - of nine tested today "full-scale" extra-roads builder of podkachal only old Opel Frontera, after obtaining only 5 marks from 16 possible. Certainly, we did not await miracle - UAZ-EY'0 hardly will be able to arise to one level at least with Montero, without speaking already about the contemporary extra-roads builder. And miracle it did not occur. Let us begin from the fact that tore away body from the frame. When UAZ rumpled barrier and cut into by the front end of the left longeron of frame into the steel plate, body continued its forward motion - and with the ease it tore away all attachment points, after being shifted by the left side of centimeters 15-20 forward. From one side, this even is good - frame accepted to itself basic gravity of impact. By the way, the left end of longeron was bent by the well, very "energy-consuming" method. (partially this it was confirmed by the indications of sensor- accelerometers on the thresholds of body - retarding did not exceed 25g.) But from other side... There is this piece as steering gear. Its crankcase is fastened to the frame, on which with the impact crawls the body. How this does threaten? Fact that with the "sliding down" of body the control shaft with the baranka will take root inside the salon. If, of course, in the construction of the steering column there are no special telescopic clutches. In the construction of the uazovskoy column of there are no clutches. As there was control shaft in the times Of uAZa-ya'9, so also it remained... , that occurred during the impact, speaks well the sequence, fixed by one of our high-speed cameras. This is approximately hundredth since the beginning of the collision millisecond. One can see well, as baranka it rose upward, practically to the ceiling, to such an extent, that the upper part of the rim pressed from the aperture windshield! But the head of mannequin- driver is literally stopped up between the control and the head rest! When we opened door after the impact (to make this it proved to be easily, since the aperture was deformed only barely), picture was not so frightening - residual deformation proved to be less, and control with the armchair a little "they returned" in their places. But at the moment of impact baranka and seat they played the role of vises for the head! If control itself on UAZe was travmobezopasnym, with the soft nave as this in all domestic machines, the impact of head would be done already practically softened. But uazovskaya baranka is solid as steel. And on the ninetieth millisecond driver obtains on the head with such force, that in the peak the summary retarding runs up to the record number in 228g! Everyone occurred - we fixed and 120g, and even 160g. but when on the forehead stuchat with the force hearth two tons (multiply the mass of head to 228g)... This is lethal outcome. Without the versions. And the second peak in 120g somewhere in region 115-1 of millisecond - this is already "zero shot into the head". "fatal" for the driver proved to be all three criteria - and the value of peak retarding in 228g, and the "three-millisecond" dose of overload in 170g (with those permitted 88g), and the calculated integral coefficient of the probability of the injury of head HIC, Head Injury Criterion. With the permissible threshold in 1000 units HIC it reached record value 1926: almost two-fold exceeding! But moreover - driver in addition has all chances to break to himself neck. You will look again to the terrible photograph: the head of mannequin is thrown back, pulled for the chin by the rim of control and "thoughtful" supported from behind by head rest. In this case on the "cervical vertebrae" of hybrid acted the stretching effort in 5000 Newtonian (with the standard in 3300 N), and bending moments first ran up to plus 90 nm, and then sharply it fell to minus 100 nm! With those permitted minus 57 nm. Furthermore without the versions: the break of spine. But that with the passenger? Exactly before it, on the panel, horizontal knob is attached - so that it would be for which be held during the motion through the broken ground. Strong knob, with the iron core. But knob did not maintain with the impact of the head of passenger (95g in the peak) - it bent! And although HIC did not exceed 1000, impact nevertheless dangerous: during three milliseconds on the "brain" of mannequin acted the retarding in 89g, which is already higher "red" threshold. Yes even "cervical vertebrae" tested the excessively high bending moment in -65 nm. It is sad. Driver with this impact - for sure not tenant, passenger will suffer injury... It is interesting that in this case the loads from the belts on the "chests" of mannequins are small. But if we conduct the calculation of marks employing procedure EuroNccAP, then it is necessary to consider the direct contact of the breast of driver with the baranka (minus mark), and the loss of the structural integrity of body - in the zone of left threshold metal is torn (this the result of "sliding down" on the frame). To say nothing about the deformed floor in the zone of fastenings of armchairs - you will look, as they are inclined forward and downward! The inclination of front seats is terrible even and by the fact that it interfere withs the belts of safety normal to fulfill its function - the omitted pillow does not counteract so-called "diving" under the waist strap. One can see well that the mannequins after impact slipped down downward and they sit with the elbows scratched upward. But indeed with the real emergency the right leg of driver will prove to be on the brake pedal - and elbow will be rested into the panel still above... In the place of the contact of the elbows of driver with the panel to look terribly - the point of attachment of the steering column is the accumulation of bulky, roughly processed angular zhelezyak, covered from the impact of elbows only by slender rigid plastic jacket. Here passes the metal tube, painted in the "military" color of khaki, and it will hang the unit of safety devices. But from the areas of the clutch pedals and brake - by gift that they were displaced back in all to 150 and on 140 mm respectively, to the pillow of driver seat it remained so little place, that the palm does not pass. Therefore simply it stopped up the left shin of mannequin between the pedal and the seat! The here yevronkapovskaya procedure of the calculation of marks gives to swing - calculated for the "civilized" automobiles, it cannot adequately estimate all horrors of such machines as Izhevsk ode or UAZ. In particular, the estimation of the protection of soles is produced only on the pedal displacement into the depth of salon - and does not consider the remained living space for the feet. Despite the fact that it in UAZe practically does not remain, automobile earns 1 mark. 0,6 additional marks are relied for the protection of elbows, plus of 1,1 marks "for the breast"... As a result 2,7 marks are collected - it is greater than in to series Shevrole of field with its estimation into 1,7 marks! But this again consequence of the fact that the low estimation simply "sinks" in an experimental error. Not without reason experts EuroNccAP recently introduced the rule of minimum "passage" five marks - if estimation with the kraw- test of less than the five, then automobile "does not pass qualification". In reality Chevrolet Niva in comparison with UAZom-ey'0 - automobile is actually safe. Both the control on the spot and armchairs are not inclined in Shevi of field after impact. And in spite of more noticeable deformation floors and stronger displacement of pedals, leg of driver in the field are protected considerably better than in UAZe. By the way, after impact from the right fuel tank Of simbira flowed the stream of water (it it substitutes for fire safety fuel- during the experiment from the considerations). You do know, why? Because the right longitudinal lever of suspension, which "holds" front axle, from the impact was displaced back and it were rubbed to the right fuel tank, after damaging it. As a result under the machine immediately after emergency accumulated the entire puddle of "fuel". Least spark - and... Now, after kraw- test, one is completely clear. All of those six years, that UAZ-EY'0 stood in the production, it so remained the "running mock-up", made to the fast hand a pre-series prototype. Yes which here to speak - is sufficient to glance at the photographs... Major modification to plant is unfavorable. Yes even unimportant also. If UAZ-EY'0 continue to gather, then by ones or by tens of machines. Series output it will no longer be. This article - requiem. Thereby, who already has UAZ-EY'0, it is possible to give the parting words, analogous to the advice of Grigoriy oster to the beginning cyclists: "do not displace into the kitchen,/in the kitchen solid refrigerator. you /Tormozite better into dad/Pope soft, it prostit ". If collision is unavoidable, to enter on UAZe better in anything that deformed, and not into the concrete fence. Rigid impacts from the high speed UAZ to you not it prostit. It can kill. Even if you are fastened. But if before you does stand selection - concrete fence or confronting on the curb Zhigulenok? Here also not all is simple. You will direct UAZ into the fence - you will kill itself. You will turn away into the car - you will for sure cripple those, who inside it. And the matter not only in two tons and frame construction. Indeed UAZ in no way is designed for the collision with the passenger automobile. Between that on SP gM-AvtoVAZ, for example, are occupied by questions "harmonizations" - under the bumper of modernized Shevi of field must appear the lower "beam", located on the level of "passenger" bumper. But this, by the way, the consequence of the fact that in Togliatti are carried out the kraw- tests with the barriers and they are oriented toward standards EuroNccAP. But in Ul'yanovsk? In Ul'yanovsk is prepared promising UAZ-EY'E and they place on the conveyor modernized UAZ-EYSHCHY9SHCH - usual "kidskin", which now became Hunter, "hunter". The testing by the displaced kraw- test usual "uazik" was passed never. At our disposal there is only one photograph, which imprinted the frontal kraw- test Of uAZa at the speed of 50 km/h into the concrete wall of the vazovskoy laboratory of impact tests. As is evident on "pulled off" from the body frame and "shot" steering column, with the serious emergency Hunter - explicit hunter before the life of its driver. But indeed people in "uazikakh" fasten still thinner than in the passenger automobiles... Accessible present cross-country vehicle is necessary to Russia. To Russia is necessary UAZ. But word "accessible" must not be the synonym of words "poor" and "mortally dangerous". And we will be glad, if in the following year we see on the poligonovskoy catapult of uazovskikh engineers, who check the versions of fastening body to the frame, telescopic elements in the steering column or belts with pyrotechnic prednatyazhitelyami. But if UAZ is drift by Soviet course, then it will sooner or later carry it to the nonexistence. There, where already proved to be Simbir.
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Mis seal's imestada, kas keegi lootis et kui UAZ'iga 50nega vastu kõva seina sõita siis auto ei lähegi katki ja halvemal juhul murrab mõne varbaküüne või saab muhu otsaette ? :) Tegemist on ju sisuliselt ikkagi 32 aastat tagasi ehitama hakatud sõjaväeautoga. Kui head ja turvalised teised samast ajastut pärinevad maasturid (vana G-mersu, LR Defender, vanad Toyotad jm) sellises testis ka oleks? Ma usun, et ühegagi neis ei tahaks keegi sedasi crashida :)
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